in the middle east will help create islands of freedom. no says historian thaddeus russell, i have it wrong. so, how do i have it wrong? >> well, as a matter of fact in general, american military intervention has increased anti-americanism and hardened repressive regimes. american popular culture, often called the worst of our culture has done more for our liberation and national security than anything the airborne could do. >> john: let's talk about the soviet union. the reagan military buildup. they spent so much they collapsed. >> they collapsed from within, didn't collapse from outside, there was never an invasion, what happened in the soviet union and eastern block, people walked away from the ideology of commune inch and that began especially when american popular culture, jazz and rock and roll infiltrated those countries after world war ii. >> john: evidence? >> evidence? american soldiers brought jazz during world war ii to the eastern front. soviet soldiers brought it back and eastern european brought it and spread it across thos